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11-28-2008, 02:21 PM
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The good S/E 58 MM Throttle Body, The Bad S/E 260 Cam's, The Ugly H-D price for this job. We Did Not!!! build it Only tuned it This is a real good example of a poor choice for a cam in a touring bike We will be changing cam's soon keep you posted
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11-28-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rosascycle
The good S/E 58 MM Throttle Body, The Bad S/E 260 Cam's, The Ugly H-D price for this job. We Did Not!!! build it Only tuned it This is a real good example of a poor choice for a cam in a touring bike We will be changing cam's soon keep you posted
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What year is bike? Is this a throttle by wire bike???The SE 260 cam is not a bad cam if you like Hp and your heads & exhaust are able to flow correctly!!! If your looking for tq then you have the wrong cam!!!! Head flow & comp must be right in order to get the proper results!!!! SE throttle bodies don't flow all that great either.Then again this is only a 103ci motor right?
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11-28-2008, 06:07 PM
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All S/E parts were used on this 2008 Roadking Fly by wire 58 MM T/B changing cams to Wood TW5 This motor is a 103 with S/E 17071-08A 110+ heads kit We will do some kind of Dyno deals in season And YES WE WANT TQ !!! more than HP on this one
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11-28-2008, 06:21 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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Looks like the same TQ dip as my previous build. SE 260 cams, Forged SE Stroker 103+ Pistons and SE 103+ heads, SE Slip-Ons, stock TB, Se A/C.
If anybody wants a set of used SE260 cams I'll sell 'em a set real cheap.

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11-28-2008, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rosascycle
All S/E parts were used on this 2008 Roadking Fly by wire 58 MM T/B changing cams to Wood TW5 This motor is a 103 with S/E 17071-08A 110+ heads kit We will do some kind of Dyno deals in season And YES WE WANT TQ !!! more than HP on this one
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What kind of comp are you going to run with this TW5??? Most of the 58mm SE throttle bodies dont flow properly.They need to be cleaned up.$hit!!! If it was me, I would clean up the heads & throttle body!!!
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11-28-2008, 06:33 PM
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Moneygreen
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You may disagree with me here,but on a bagger id rather have more hp than tq!!! I dont need a 135-140lbs of tq at 2500rpm for what?? If i come out the hole to hard and break the belt then my day is over.Id rather have the tq start at about 120-125lbs at the lower rpms then come on strong after i get the bike moving.I would like my tq & HP to be close in favor of HP.Many guys like alot of tq on baggers because of the weight.If you can't feather the throttle & give to much ,you could break something.Then your race & day is over!!!!!!
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11-28-2008, 06:41 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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So Craig, u wanna buy my cams? $25 plus shipping. 
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11-28-2008, 07:02 PM
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Moneygreen
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No Jerry I don't do SE parts!!! Actually when it comes to cams i'm impartial to Woods Performance!!!!!!
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11-28-2008, 07:05 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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Originally Posted by arealinvestor
No Jerry I don't do SE parts!!! Actually when it comes to cams i'm impartial to Woods Performance!!!!!!
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I knew that, me too!
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11-28-2008, 07:09 PM
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Lucky Man
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Excellent example of dyno numbers not meaning chit, the numbers sound impressive until you look at the torque line, a little street port 95 with 37's would absolutely spank this bike while posting numbers 10-15% lower.
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11-28-2008, 07:44 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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Originally Posted by SEDELUXE
craig you want tq more then hp.
ill take a bike with 125 tq and 90 hp at 2500 rpm way before i would take a bike with more 125 hp and 90 tq
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I completely agree with you SEDELUXE, except for one thing. You would not settle for either of those two choices. 
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11-29-2008, 06:23 PM
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IronButt
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Reality Check
Will the light bike with more HP beat the heavy bagger with more torque? Of course it will. But not necessarily visa versa.
One thing that affects HP is sumping. Torque can be fairly good because it happens @ low RPMs, but HP is what really takes the big hit when sumping is in play.
It is relatively easy to drag the flywheels though oil when turning slowly, but crank up the revs and it is like dragging an anchor.

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11-29-2008, 06:32 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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On one hand the 260 isn't ever going to be a low end torquer but 113 HP seems OK to me. If he had a good 2 into 1 pipe perhaps some of that trough would fill in?
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11-29-2008, 06:34 PM
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IronButt
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Originally Posted by arealinvestor
Actually when it comes to cams i'm impartial to Woods Performance!!!!!!
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im·par·tial
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)im-ˈpär-shəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1587
: not partial or biased : treating or affecting all equally
please use the right word when discussing the one true love of your life
you would go to the chair defending a wood cam
....kind of like me and Nora Jones
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11-29-2008, 06:37 PM
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Iron Butt, SS2000
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Confess Craig !!!
You ARE partial !!!
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