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Originally Posted by hdrider1

I have an '07 Road Glide with Stock 96" ECM --- I'm going to install 103" SE BB kit (w/SE255 Cam) w/.030" head gaskets. Bike already has Hi Flow AC and V&H True Duals w/V&H Slash Cut Slip-ons and Fuelpak installed.

I looked on V&H website for map and saw some 2007 103" maps that said "SE Flat top pistons 9.3:1" -- what's with that? -- the only CR listed in the Harley Catalog for 103" flat top pistons with stock Heads is 10:1. If I calculate CR for .030 Head Gasket, I'm at about 10.34:1.

So I contacted V&H and (after initially saying they didn't have a map for increased CR) they eventually recommended map FP-1118. However, this map indicated a Stage 1 1690 ECU burn -- when I said I had a Stock 96" ECU, they said they couldn't help and I should buy a Power Commander and have it Dyno Tuned.

I bought the FuelPak based on V&H claims of easy tuning with maps available for most modifications. It seems to me that a 103" BB kit for a 96" is a pretty standard modification -- they didn't indicate that you'd have to spend $200 extra at the dealer to get the Stage 1 1690 ECU burn before you can use the Fuelpak. Now I need to sell this piece of crap and get a Power Commander (which I should have done initially).

The Fuelpak has good advertising, but you really need to look behind the smoke & mirrors to decide what's a good long term purchase. The fact that they don't (and won't) tell you what each setting does makes it totally useless as a self tuning device.

I am sorry you feel this way, but you are entitled to your opinion.
I have said many times in the thread, and Vance and Hines does say that If you plan to do HEAVY modifcations, that the FuelPack is not designed for this. The Fuelpak has no timing control, that is, it can not change the timing, and it can not change many things the fuel map will need to have adjusted for this Engine you plan on building, It needs to work off the stock (And or base) program to work.
When you go from a 96 to a 103, yes, there is a download the dealer installs when they do this Mod, and you want to increase compression to the point a change ion timing will need to be down.
Again, this unit it made for the guy that wants to do a stage one upgrad, of use a Harley engine kit, but it needs Harleys program to work with.
This is not smoke and mirrors, it is made for the majority of riders.

In your case, I would suggest getting the SERT, this will let a Tech dyno tune in your engine to get it's full potental.

But if you had ask here, called Vance and Hines or read the fuelpak box, you should have known that this Unit was not going to meet your needs.

It is a fine unit, but really, it does have it's limitations, and I think Vanc e and Hines has done there best to be upfront about them.

Good luck with your engine, and please post it up in the 96 engine forum, I am looking forward to seeing how it does for you.