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Originally Posted by GPO03FatBoy
No disagreements here, the closed loop systems are good systems, they just don't seem to be peak performers without dyno time.
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You hit on several good points here.
But here is the thing that I have an issue with (not with you)
"they just don't
seem to be peak performers without dyno time."
I do not think anyone with a SERT and dyno time can honestly and truthfully say the peak performance is better than a closed loop system that has been tweaked. (Please refer to Post#74 in this thread) because unless you have ran both side by side under the same conditions no way do you know.
Sorry, theory does not cut it because in theory a helicopter and a bumble bee are not supposed to be able to fly. Of course everyone know that a helicopter does not fly the just beat the air into submission.
Here is the challenge I have for both a tuner and Zippers. Someone please do a heads up comparison. No guessing like many are doing and making assumptions (We all know the 3 key words in assume).
I would like to see a typical 95 build that has been tuned by an average SERT Tuner and a dyno run sheet from it. I say average, because from what I read most are average (not slinging mud at anybody, just repeating what I have read. I know there are some excellent ones out there)
Then the same bike with a closed loop system set up like in Post #74 (any owner of a TM w AT can do that) and a dyno run sheet from it.
Maybe we can get one of the big name Motorcycle Magazines to do just such a test. (Maybe the one the forum is named after???)
I think it would be one hell of a shoot out.
What do you think??
PS in the 30's and still ridding. Wife thinks I am nutzzz but then again she has though that for many years.
